Randy McDonald ([info]rfmcdpei) wrote,
@ 2005-09-10 13:49:00
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[BRIEF NOTE] Les chinois à Brest
On pages 45 and 46 of his 1992 book The End of the Twentieth Century and the End of the Modern Age, John Lukacs wrote the following:

In 1943, Louis-Ferdinand Céline wrote that the German army at the Volga was the last bulwark of Europe; after that the deluge, les Chinois à Brest. He meant not Brest-Litovsk on the Polish-Russian frontier but Brest at the westernmost tip of Brittany, of Europe. He lamented that the Germans lost the battle at Stalingrad and that their retreat westward then began.


I asked if this was at all possible on soc.history.what-if. Not surprisingly, the consensus seemed to be that Céline was cracked, or perhaps on crack. This proves, among other things, that one really should not let extraordinarily creative people become politicians. Bad, stupid things will happen.


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[info]princeofcairo
2005-09-11 09:21 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure if you're being arch, here, and I'm not disputing that Celine was, indeed, cracked, but referring to the Russians as "Asiatics" goes back to the Enlightenment at least; Celine is probably conflating the Slav/Mongol horde of rightwing paranoia with a poetic, not ethnographic, reference to "les Chinois".

With that assumption, putting Soviet occupation troops in France takes only Halifax in for Churchill (or Alf Landon in for FDR), although they'd probably technically be troops "expressing revolutionary solidarity with their Communist French brethren."

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[info]rfmcdpei
2005-09-12 01:18 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure if you're being arch, here[.]

I'm being arch, yes, and I'm certainly aware of the definition of Russians as "Asiatics." It's even defensible in certain way--most of Russia's territory, if not its population, is located in Asia.

But Russians as "Chinese," as a specific Asian nationality that isn't Russian? That's mock-worthy.

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The wogs begin at Calais
[info]sandor_baci
2005-09-11 03:33 pm UTC (link)
The interpretation put forward by princeofcairo is in accord with what Lukacs is likely to have meant. Magyar race memory is never hidden deep in Lukacs' writings: Les Chinois a Brest, les Turques a Vienne, ou meme plus loin.

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